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A.S.S.A - Spin-off the Series

January 13th, 2007 at 2:29 pm by Darth Citrus

Before we begin, I would like to correct some mistakes in my previous ASSA’s that I shamefully made regarding Twilight Princess.

In my December 2005 edition of A Somewhat Serious Article: Linkwhopin’, I erroneously stated that Ganondorf would receive the “mother of all Linkwhopin’s”. Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf.

In my discussion of the Twilight Princess delay in “The Twilight Princess Delay”, I calculated that Twilight Princess would again be delayed in the August of 2025. Revised calculations now show July 2025 to be the correct timeframe.

And finally in my article “Much Ado About Deku Nuts” I sadly jumped to the exciting conclusion that Deku Nuts were to make a triumphant return in Twilight Princess. Sadly this is not the case. Instead of stunning their victims Ocarina of Time style, Deku Nuts are now “doomsday weapons”, capable of annihilating Hyrule Castle in a single hit. This change makes it the only weapon you will use in the game, simultaneously destroying any former elegance it once had.

I hope you all have it within your heart to forgive these blatant oversights on my part. It will not happen again. Now to the actual article.

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Festive salutations and traditional New Years greetings to all the loyal Zelda Blogites out there. This article was intended to be in line with New Years festivities. However I was unable to do so due to sickness and now it’s the thirteenth. Just pretend its New Years Day for effect. Also please note that this article references some aspects of Twilight Princess but goes out of it’s way to not spoil it for anyone. So comment accordingly.

Well 2006 has come and gone and what a year it was. For most of us it was spent eagerly anticipating the next installment of the Zelda series: Twilight Princess. The rest was spent playing Twilight Princess instead of studying for finals and stuff.

While many people, including myself, thought the game was amazing, I can’t help but wonder if Nintendo is running out of steam. Sure Twilight Princess had the whole wolf aspect thing and the concept of sword fighting on the Wii was really cool. But at the same time the timeline is becoming fragmented beyond reason and the gameplay is starting to have a dull as dishwater routine to it.

Want proof? Alright, go into any major Zelda forum out there, enter the Zelda Discussion section and start a timeline topic.

Within MINUTES you will witness a flame war that few internet veterans have seen; the cold bare steel of Zelda logic crashing against the mighty barricaded walls of Zelda reason. Lifelong friends suddenly become enemies; peaceful topics are instantly torn asunder. Until at last, the forum is reduced to nothing more than a desolate swamp of “lttp is b4 oot foo’!” and “STFU n00b!”

Timeline discussion is listed as the 2nd most volatile material in existence by the Zelda community. Last year, a conference of 70 webmasters banned any discussion of it to avoid the complete destruction of existing sites due to flame wars and spamming. Any previous attempts to piece together a universally accepted timeline have been met with shouts of “lttp is b4 OOT foo’!” and “STFU n00b”.

There’s a reason the timeline is currently in the state it’s in. With each game that comes out, events become harder and harder to piece together. To even unite the main facts in some coherent way seems impossible. Once you’ve played Twilight Princess, you’ll be wondering how any timeline can fit at all.

The other main issue is the gameplay. I’m not talking about the unique aspects of the series such as Minish shrinking, becoming a wolf, or living the same three days over and over. These things make Zelda what it is. I’m talking about gameplay aspects that have become so in grained in the games, it’s become expected.

Here are some examples of what I’m talking about:

Games where you have to save Princess Zelda who has SHOCKINGLY become trapped or immobilized by Ganon/Ganondorf/otherevilvillain:

Legend of Zelda – Ganon: Whole Game
Adventure of Link – Evil Wizard: Whole Game
A Link to the Past – Ganon: Whole Game
Ocarina of Time – Ganondorf: End of the Game
Oracle Series (played together) – Twinrova: End of the Game
The Wind Waker – Ganondorf: End of the Game
The Minish Cap – Vaati: Whole Game

Games where you have to collect a series of…things that won’t help you in your quest until you collect ALL of them:

Legend of Zelda – Triforce of Wisdom
A Link to the Past – Pendants of Courage, Wisdom and Power
Link’s Awakening – Windfish Instruments
Ocarina of Time – Spiritual Stones and Medallions
Majora’s Mask – The Guardian’s Masks
Oracle Series – Whatever it was, you had to collect 8 of them in EACH GAME.
The Wind Waker – The Pearls of the Gods and the Triforce of Courage

Games where the dungeon boss keeps the item of his weakness in the same location he is:

Every single game except Adventure of Link

Games that start off with Link sleeping:

A Link to the Past – Link is sleeping when Zelda contacts him
Link’s Awakening – Link is sleeping after being shipwrecked
Ocarina of Time – Link is sleeping when Navi comes in the door
Oracle of Seasons – Link is unconscious or sleeping when found by Din
The Wind Waker – Link is sleeping on the hard wooden floor of a look out berth
The Minish Cap – Link is sleeping when Zelda comes to see him

I think you get the idea.

Now before everyone starts shouting, “WAT?!!? ZELDA IS THE PWNS!!!111!11ONE! YOU SUCKS LOLOLOLOL!” let me just make it clear that I’m not ragging on the games at all. Everyone knows, including me, that I’ll be camping on the hard cold Canadian tundra when the next Zelda game comes out. And the next one, and the one after that.

The point I’m trying to make is that certain aspects of the series are becoming stale. When the timeline is hopelessly falling apart, fans can guess a major plot device three months prior to release, and Ganon is still using the same “throw balls of energy at him” technique that didn’t work back in Ocarina of Time, you know it’s time to try something new. Nintendo needs to jazz up the games, take a new approach to the characters, and just try something NEW for Nayru sake.

That’s right everyone. It’s time to SPIN-OFF THE SERIES

For those unfamiliar with the term, to Spin-Off means to start a new series of TV shows, books or games based on a pre-existing series.

Spin-offs are done when producers or writers want to try something new without creating new characters, settings and plotlines. You can see it happening with games and TV today. Half of the Mario franchise is spin-offs the main games, such as Mario Party and every single Mario sports game made. Joey was a spin-off Friends. Heck Metroid Pinball could be considered a spin-off the main Metroid games.

Setting aside time to create games like these would give Nintendo the perfect opportunity to take a break from the main timeline. Take some chances with the series. Give a bold new direction and identity to the characters.

This being A Somewhat Serious Article, lets go ahead and do just that:

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Tagline: “Did somebody call for a doctor?”

Overview
Link, Zelda and Ganondorf are an aspiring group of doctors conducting research into Triforcemetyaline-3-oxide, a drug capable of improving the user’s strength, brain capabilities and reflexes. But, when a freak accident exposes them to dangerous levels of the substance, Ganondorf decides to use his newly acquired power to seize control of the Hyrule medical facility! With the clock racing against them, Link and Zelda must work together to reverse the drug’s effects on Ganondorf before he manages to steal all the Triforcemetyaline-3-oxide in the world!

Features
See Hyrule through the eyes of a microbe!

Use your knowledge of advanced bio-chemistry to solve complex lab puzzles!

Take advantage of Link’s incredible reflexes to infiltrate the facility undetected!

Features an amazing array of enemies including Xenozythane and Moblin-01TFX!

Rated O for Outbreak

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Tagline: “Bow ba-Chicka Wow Wow”

Overview
Love is in the air as a mysterious hero has captured the hearts of all the ladies he meets, including yours! But will you let the others get in the way between you and Link? It’s time to settle the score with your rivals in this action packed romantic game: Everyone Loves Link !

Features
Choose between a variety of famous Legend of Zelda ladies such as Zelda, Malon, Ruto, Marin, Ilia, Midna and much more!

Steal attention away from your rivals by initializing clever scenarios such as “My jewel was stolen from me Link!”, “I’ve been kidnapped by moblins Link!” and “I’m being imprisoned by an evil warlock Link!”

Woo him over with special gifts like the Ocarina of Time, Zora Sapphire, the Spirit Medallion and many others!

Rated L for Lov…ugh even I can’t make this joke

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Tagline: “Tingle-Tingle, Kooloo-Limpaaalright this is stupid. There is no way a game like this would even be considered, let alone made. NEXT!

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Tagline: “Soccer just kicked into OVERDRIVE”

Overview
It’s a grudge match to the max! Ganondorf, captain of the Geurdo Marauders has issued an open challenge to any team brave enough to stand against him for the coveted Triforce of Power! Will Link, an aspiring rookie Captain be able to rise in the ranks of the big league? Or will soccer darkness reign for all time? Only you can decide Hyrule’s fate!

Features
Utilize the Wii remote to stab the Deku Baba ball and kick it across the field!

Lead your team to victory through famous plays such as “The Iron Goron”, “The Fainting Ruto Pass” and “The Chain and Ball run”

Several exciting modes like Bobokin Deathmatch, Wallmaster Scramble, Spinner Frenzy and Multi-Deku Ball Rumble.

Rated X for ‘XTREME

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Tagline: “It’s time to get dimensional. TWO dimensional”

Overview
The world of Hyrule never looked so vivid on paper! In this entirely original concept, Link, now a paper cutout must save Hyrule from the hands of the evil Paper Ganondorf! The quest will be long, the dangers oh-so papery. In the end, do you have what it takes to survive in a 2-D world?

Features
Don’t fold under pressure! Travel Hyrule by folding into a paper horse, flatten yourself against the wall to hide from Ruto, confuse your enemies by crumpling into litter and much more!

Travel with powerful allies like Pafi the disillusioned fairy, Mu-Mu the Chu Chu, Larg the Moblin and many others!

Gather ancient medallions to unleash powerful attacks on your enemies, such as the Hurricane Spin, the Flying Jump Strike and the Stab Down Finish!

Rated E for Everyone except people who hate RPG’s

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Well that’s just a few ideas right there, but I think it gets the point across. I think it’s possible to see valid spin-offs the main series with out condemning us to a life of Tingle rupee collecting and more Tingle rupee collecting. I know I wouldn’t mind seeing a few of these games made. Besides in the end of the day, once they’ve had their fun stabbing Deku Baba’s and kicking them into goal posts, then maybe they can focus on fixing the quagmire that is the Zelda timeline.

Of course that’s only my thoughts on the matter; and after all you’re only going to find those in A Somewhat Serious Article.

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    Darn you, Darth Citrus! I had started a ‘Blog post about something very much like this!

    *pouts*

    I’m going to go cry now.

    *wanders off as he goes and deletes his article… and is silently thankful that he has MANY backup topic ideas*

    I totally agree with you Darth. The series is becoming a collect-the-items-to-kill-the-boss-and-save-the-girl type of thing. There needs to be a spin-off, like maybe from a different character’s point of view. Like let’s say… Zelda, like they did with Peach in the Mario series. I’m just saying this, but you could go on princess-y adventures to flee the clutches of Ganon/dorf, Vaati, name-I-can’t-say-because-there-are-no-spoilers-aloud, or whatever. The Paper Link idea wouldn’t be to shabby. I love the Paper Mario games, probably my favorite in the Mario series. So a spin-off is realllllllllllllllly what the series needs if it’s going to survive the next few years, you know, counting us die-hards out that’ll buy every Zelda game in existance.

    Lol! I’m all for Paper Link! Anyways, random thought for you all: Do you think that when whats-his-face said that Twilight Princess was the last Zelda game of it’s kind, he was talking about the timeline? Honestly, that’s the first thing that came to my mind… because there’s not much room for improvement elsewhere…unless he did mean Everybody Loves Link (an idea that gets creepier everytime I think about it).

    The Missing Link said:

    Darn you, Darth Citrus! I had started a ‘Blog post about something very much like this!

    *pouts*

    I’m going to go cry now.

    *wanders off as he goes and deletes his article… and is silently thankful that he has MANY backup topic ideas*

    It’s ok, TML! We all love your articles, no matter how deleted they are!

    You know what would be awesome? Hyrulian Clue! *Who killed Navi? Was it Ganondorf? Was it Zelda? Was it the Great Deku Tree? Or was it… Link? Da Da Da DAAA!!! You decide in Hyrulian Clue!*

    I can see it now…

    But really, how about a Spin-off that does not necessarily follow so closely the Zelda formula? Let’s have some Hylian hero (or heroine) known or uknown battle monsters and evil armies of anoying faeries, with cameo appearences by Link, Zelda or whatever. Let him or her use exclusively magic instead of a sword and let him or her lead a troop of mercenaries searching for the Kokiri Emerald, last of the Arcane Artifacts of the old Hylia.

    There are so many elements in TLoZ to use in a succesful spin-off frachise!

    I think we can safely say Paper Zelda is a must with that artwork.

    Thank you for the complements. :D Yeah Paper Link took the longest to draw, but I think it was worth it. I wouldn’t mind seeing that made into a game. :P

    How about a Survival Horror Game where Link has to avoid the loving clutches of the apparently Indestructible Princess Ruto.

    Or “Majora’s Mask Tennis?” Push your digital reflexes to the test as the Moon flys across the court!

    I like the sound of Extreme Deku Baba Ball. Usually I don’t like sports games, but it sounds good. If I could make a spin-off, let’s see (i’m thinking as I’m typing)….. A game about Ganondorf, from OoT, and how we see why he turns evil, while kicking *navi* or a game involving the Golden World (better known as the Sacred Realm… I can’t let go of the past) and it would have a new hero (or heroine) who has some sort of connection to Fierce Deity Link. Plus, they’re not Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Vaati, or anyone else, a totally new person.

    Hmmmm, Paper Link. I like that idea. Although, I still like that idea about a LoZ MMO. Choose from any race from Deku Scrub to Zora.(That is suppoesed to be in from A to Z, but I can’t remember if Deku Scrub comes first alphabetically.) Customize, and join parties to solve unbelievable puzzles and fight foes beyond the expertise of a single hero.

    But then again that is only me ;p

    I think if they would do a spin-off (which I agree they need to do; get a little break from the same ol’ Zelda formula) it should be something a little more Majoras Mask like. An alternate universe type thing, ‘ya know? No worries about plot continuity, some free reign to get the brainjuice flowing again. But it would definately be a nice break from the norm.

    And I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the Zelda soda’s starting to go flat. Not that I’m saying TP wasn’t some delicious soda…

    dear goddessess, i have some shocking news about ikana canyon!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you want hear it, go to the ikana canyon blog IMEDEITLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    hey,I wouldnt mind playing half those games :P .I agree though,the series is getting a little too repetitious.they just need to stop making you collect items to save a girl and think of something different for link to do.its starting to take the path DBZ did,while entertaining,it was still a little dull after a saga or two (it was the same thing again and again,exept the bad guys looked…er…more different :? ).hmm…paper link,now that sounds like fun :) .

    Shadow Ninja Kakashi said:

    hey,I wouldnt mind playing half those games :P .I agree though,the series is getting a little too repetitious.they just need to stop making you collect items to save a girl and think of something different for link to do.its starting to take the path DBZ did,while entertaining,it was still a little dull after a saga or two (it was the same thing again and again,exept the bad guys looked…er…more different :? ).hmm…paper link,now that sounds like fun :) .

    Super Sayain level 999,999! His hair is so big it takes up the whole TV screen!!! Heheheh.

    I think a zelda MMo wouldn’t be so bad. Or you could just, shake it up a bit by throwing an actual war in there. You could have Link trying to rescue P.O.W.s and raiding camps, like the one part of TP before that on dungeon with that special thing on the top. I hope I didn’t say too much.

    Sorry but this one just hit me. Sci-Fi Zelda!!

    lol! They’re all such wonderful ideas… but the love deathmatch wins. Ruto vs Malon? I know we’d all want to witness that :D

    To be honest, I would welcome an MMORPG and I know that idea is unpopular with some (please dont kill me) but I’d love to have adventures round Hyrule with a group of friends. Zelda can be such a lonely game to play!

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    DITTO! I’d start in a heart beat. I would pay a million bucks to get that started.

    What about a Harvest Moon like Zelda game, where you are just a regular person(you get to choose race) in Hyrule and the day to day activities.

    lol lol lol lol Oh oh thats rich! I loved the last one! Paper Link, I could see that. Link getting a whole bunch of paper cuts from gannons bad drawlings. (Being in the sacred realm drains your creativity)

    Paper Tingle anyone?

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    DITTO! I’d start in a heart beat. I would pay a million bucks to get that started.

    I disagree. I would absolutely hate that. it would be too “the Sims meets Zelda”. It would ruin the whole series. Ugh…

    good article lol, i didnt realize how alike all the games are. some sub-games would be fun like animal crossing zelda style, heh in my animal crossing game i have a house with all stuff for link in it, its his house lol :D

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    DITTO! I’d start in a heart beat. I would pay a million bucks to get that started.

    that would be really cool, i’de pick a theif ^_^

    Kurama Uchiha said:

    good article lol, i didnt realize how alike all the games are. some sub-games would be fun like animal crossing zelda style, heh in my animal crossing game i have a house with all stuff for link in it, its his house lol :D

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    DITTO! I’d start in a heart beat. I would pay a million bucks to get that started.

    that would be really cool, i’de pick a theif ^_^

    It would be like FF3 with a Zelda spin off.

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    could I be a shiekah thief :P ? that would be cool.

    “Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf”
    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*
    How is he not in a game where it is ALL ABOUT Link….
    And
    How about a game where you get to be Ganondorf!!
    You could actually get away with stealing the triforce and messing up Hyrule!
    No..no..thats impossible
    , ha ha ha

    You should honestly send some of these ideas in so that everyone can play them and experience the true joy of a great spin-off!

    And when you send them in and they are made into games, just so yo know, I will kick your *Navi* in Everyone Loves Link ;) .

    Princess Ashley said:

    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*
    How is he not in a game where it is ALL ABOUT Link….

    Sarcasm is wasted on some people.

    Princess Ashley said:

    “Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf”
    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*
    How is he not in a game where it is ALL ABOUT Link….

    Yeah, all of that stuff is 100% mostly a lie. Aside from the whole Deku Nut thing. They have Deku nut trebuchets knocking apart Hyrule castle in the middle of the game. LOL. BTW that’s all BS.

    Prophet of Winds said:

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    Link-Hero said:

    I would like to see Nintendo make a online Zelda game where you can choose races like Hylians, Zoras, Gorons ect. Do different things like be a swordman, ranger, mage, theif, store clerk, pesent, explorer, farmer ect. Does that sound awsome?

    DITTO! I’d start in a heart beat. I would pay a million bucks to get that started.

    I disagree. I would absolutely hate that. it would be too “the Sims meets Zelda”. It would ruin the whole series. Ugh…

    That’s kind the purpose. All of these could potentially ruin the series. That’s why there needed. To break up the monotony. Beside, FF XI didn’t kill the Final Fantasy series. And WoW boosted sales on Warcraft III. I just wouldn’t want an outrageous monthly fee. They could pwn-all and make it free after the first payment.

    Legendary_Blade said:

    You should honestly send some of these ideas in so that everyone can play them and experience the true joy of a great spin-off!

    And when you send them in and they are made into games, just so yo know, I will kick your *Navi* in Everyone Loves Link ;) .

    Nintendo would never do it, if you want to see these become games, come over to ZFGC(Zelda Fan Game Central) I’m sure someone over there would take one of these.

    You forgot the tree-shippers in the dating game. In OoA the Maku tree wants to marry link too.

    Paper Link might not be half bad. This is kinda stupid, but what if there was Call of Duty 4:Zelda Edition? :)

    The Deku Master said:

    Paper Link might not be half bad. This is kinda stupid, but what if there was Call of Duty 4:Zelda Edition? :)

    Hey, maybe. A zelda War game, only with swords not guns. Or they could make a table-top roleplaying game. But they’d have to do more than just make a D&D source book. Unlike certain other game developers. *cough*blizzard*cough*

    The Missing Link said:

    Princess Ashley said:

    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*
    How is he not in a game where it is ALL ABOUT Link….

    Sarcasm is wasted on some people.

    Correction, sarcasm is wasted on the internet.

    LJinx said:

    The Missing Link said:

    Princess Ashley said:

    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*
    How is he not in a game where it is ALL ABOUT Link….

    Sarcasm is wasted on some people.

    Correction, sarcasm is wasted on the internet.

    Well put. sarcasm is hard on the internet, especially since tone of voice has a lot to do with it. That’s half the reason flame wars get started.

    How about a racing game? People would ride different breeds of horses, and race from one point to another, as either normal races, or as mini-games. And the best ride is not a horse, it’s an owl! Of course, to unlock the owl, you have to unlock everything else. Who will win the ultimate race, from Death Mountain, to Lake Hylia, from Windfall Isle, to Outset, from Mabe Village to the Wind Fish Egg, wherever you are, anf whenever you are, the ultimate race is about to begin.

    Princess Ashley said:

    “Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf”
    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*

    Don’t feel too bad Princess Ashley, I didn’t get it either. It is hard to tell when someone’s being sarcastic, I often fall for online sarcasm.

    Jumanji Shishioh said:
    Don’t feel too bad Princess Ashley, I didn’t get it either. It is hard to tell when someone’s being sarcastic, I often fall for online sarcasm.

    i didnt get it either :? , i dont do alot online

    so its settled then! nobody gets sarcasm :P (I miss it alot too,which…can be bad :? ).

    anyways,I always wanted them to make a zelda game like fire emblem.link could be the main lord (but like a hero :P ) zelda could be a sage that uses light magic,ganondorf could be a…hmmm…dark…warlock? tingle of coarse could be none other then the fairy king,after missing his rightful roll in sacred stones :D .

    im sure theres more :) .

    Ok, I had another idea a few minutes ago, but I forgot. Hmm, I feel like asking around. Hey everyone, what would your games (from DC’s games to our own games) what platform are they for?

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    Ok, I had another idea a few minutes ago, but I forgot. Hmm, I feel like asking around. Hey everyone, what would your games (from DC’s games to our own games) what platform are they for?

    the one I mentioned would probably only work on game boy.

    Jumanji Shishioh said:
    Hey everyone, what would your games (from DC’s games to our own games) what platform are they for?

    my animal crossing zelda style would be for GCN or GBA ^_^

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    How about a racing game? People would ride different breeds of horses, and race from one point to another, as either normal races, or as mini-games. And the best ride is not a horse, it’s an owl! Of course, to unlock the owl, you have to unlock everything else. Who will win the ultimate race, from Death Mountain, to Lake Hylia, from Windfall Isle, to Outset, from Mabe Village to the Wind Fish Egg, wherever you are, anf whenever you are, the ultimate race is about to begin.

    Princess Ashley said:

    “Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf”
    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*

    Don’t feel too bad Princess Ashley, I didn’t get it either. It is hard to tell when someone’s being sarcastic, I often fall for online sarcasm.

    I dont know..its not really good sarcasm at all…… It was like a mind eraser

    Jumanji Shishioh said:

    How about a racing game? People would ride different breeds of horses, and race from one point to another, as either normal races, or as mini-games. And the best ride is not a horse, it’s an owl! Of course, to unlock the owl, you have to unlock everything else. Who will win the ultimate race, from Death Mountain, to Lake Hylia, from Windfall Isle, to Outset, from Mabe Village to the Wind Fish Egg, wherever you are, anf whenever you are, the ultimate race is about to begin.

    Princess Ashley said:

    “Link is not at all present in Twilight Princess and thus cannot “Linkwhop” Ganondorf”
    What? I thought Link was the main character….*scratches head*

    Don’t feel too bad Princess Ashley, I didn’t get it either. It is hard to tell when someone’s being sarcastic, I often fall for online sarcasm.

    The Legend of Zelda Chariot Racing!
    Throw Octorok rocks, Deku Nuts, etc at your racing opponents!

    BTW, TML, I love that Paper Link idea!

    Konjika, it was Darth Citrus’ idea, not TML’s, ok?

    I kind of get what you mean with the whole “damsel in distress, evil archvillain” thing. Y’know what I really want to see? A game with a good Ganondorf. At least, for part of the game. The most intriguing villains are the ones you understand, how they got to where they were, their reasons, their motives, all that stuff. Going from Ganon to Ganondorf in OoT was a step in the right direction, as he was a bit more human. Nevertheless, he still kind of had a stereotypical “POWER POWER POWER” persona. I absolutely loved how they made Ganondorf almost a sympathetic character at the end of WW. He gave a backstory that at least somewhat explained a contempt for Hylians. TP, though, while he was a total badass with a majestic cape, kind of went back to the diabolical evil-through-and-through formula. Ah, well.

    But if he started off as good? Good intentions gone awry? Heck, a camaraderie with Link? Playing him as a character?

    Wow, this is getting long.

    Ah yes, the timeline thing. Have you seen GameTrailers.com’s timeline theory? It’s pretty solid. And while it was made before TP came out, it still works. Twilight Princess seems to fit perfectly between OoT and WW. And they always leave Ganondorf’s defeat ambigious enough so while it may be a little unlikely he could come back, it’s not necessarily contradictory.

    I still say we need a spin off where you play as Oni Link and try to destroy Termina, but end up trapped in a mask when you turn around from destroying to try to save it from Majora, in hopes taht if you can have it all, neither can he/she/it.
    Hey, it would lead in well to the Majora’s Mask game and how Majora came to be and why Oni can still kick it’s rear.

    Also, I’d like to see #D/ updated version of the older Zelda games…like, a #D Link’s Awakening or A Link to the Past (which is still a much better game thatn TP, sorry.)

    I can still imagine a strategy game of Zelda, where you actually fight wars that happened (Imprisioning war, or the Deku civil war in TP ^^).
    Yeah, picture it like this…
    Start from zero: create and defend your central, each race has his own Town Center(Deku Tree, Hyrule Castle, Goron Mines)
    Train your soldiers in the ways of battle: by researching new technologies you can create new and more powerful units like the Spiked Rolling Goron, the Flyng Nut-spitting Deku, the Slinshooter Kokiri and the fearsome Iron Knuckle
    Unleash your inner monster: by Building dungeons you may unleash powerfull monsters, each with his own strengths and weaknesses like the Deku Baba, the Leevers, the Redead, the Fire Dancers and more.
    Devast your enemies by creating Bosses: the ultimate destruction unit, let them roam the land or create specific arenas for them. Each Race has its own such as Volvagia, Bongo Bongo, Gyorg and many many more.

    Summon your gods: Threat your your enemies by calling the powers of your gods and send waves of destruction: the Hylian flood, the Terminian Moon fall, the Goron Starve for mentioning some.

    Follow the leader: create epic and unique Units such as Darunia, Nabooru, Sahasrala (err…ok so it’s not that cool…) and the Legendary Hero of Time.

    Oh yeah, how cool it would be.

    Oh shoot, another one.
    Eternal Twilight: you start as the Princess Zelda in present time, the world has been covered by Twilight by many years now, as you explore the castle, the truth beyond al truths begins to unfold…
    Play as differnt heroes each in his own era, as you discover the eternal fight beteewn good and evil.
    Solve ancient misteries finding scatered clues such as what happened to the former Hyrule, the mysterious paralell world of Termina and an ancient plan to conquer the world by a 35-yearold fairy.

    Only by understanding the past may you change the future…

    This game would be great as it would shed some light on timeline.

    Well, it looks like poeple have already posted a fire-emblem style spin-off, but I’ve got another one. One where you can play as Ganondorf. He’s already guarenteed a win (of sorts) before Windwaker.

    Also, I love the Paper Link idea (who doesn’t?), especially the chu-chu partner.

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